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FAQs - spellbooks? using oils? and how long will candles take to work?

Q:

A customer asks how long a candle will take to work, how to use the oil s/he bought, and whether a spellbook is necessary to do hoodoo.

A:

There is no way I can answer a question about how long a candle is going to take to work - it depends on the situation. If you are lighting a single votive candle for a million dollar lottery win, I'd be pretty surprised if it ever worked. If you are lighting it as part of a larger and continuing working to improve your business, you should probably see some signs of positive movement in your spellwork within a month or so -- perhaps sooner -- if the spellwork you're doing is going to work and if the right spell was done the right way. If you don't, you ought to adjust the way you;re working or get a reading.  A sign might be an omen, or just an increase in foot traffic even if you haven't seen the sales at the level you like yet, or an offer from somewhere for some good word of mouth or low-cost advertising - some sign that things are moving in the desired direction.  (See the comments section for some sage words: it's probably not going to be the hand of God writing a message to you in the fog of your bathroom mirror.  If that happens, please call me.  I would like to hire you.)  If you see nothing at all a month after you've done your work, no signs of positive movement at all, and the spell was appropriate and done correctly, then it's probably time to adjust fire. However, if you're burning candles to change a very longstanding interpersonal or psychological situation, or work towards something huge like the sale of a home, a month simply might not be long enough to bring deep, lasting change at the level you'd like. And people often choose unrealistic goals or inappropriate methods for getting them, in which case the answer might be "never."  I just can't answer this question.  It does not have a simple answer.

The bottom line: There are too many variables in anybody's case for anybody to be able to answer your question about how long the candle you are thinking of buying will take to work, or even if it will.  Spellwork just doesn't work like that, and in addition you'll probably find that many rootworkers will say they do their work but are always careful to phrase things "if it be God's will."  The reality is that sometimes it is NOT God's will.  This is not a gumball machine where you put your quarter in and get a prize every time.

Please note: this person was asking product questions, so she expected that this question had an answer along the lines of "how long can I expect your oils to stay fresh."  If you are booking altar work or a light setting and having the progress read and interpreted for you, you will probably get a lot more specific information about your chances for success and any obstacles or recommendations, and you may even get some kind of timeline in some cases.  But there is no way in hell anybody can give you any idea about a timeframe if you call them up and say "I'm thinking of getting this candle, but I want to know how long it might take to work."  You have the wrong idea if you are asking that kind of question or expecting that it can always be answered simply.)

If all you've done is have a light set for you, and you and your worker have not gone over your situation and how it got the way it got in any depth, and/or your worker has not read on the situation for you, then a few words of caution may be order:  "How long will this candle take to work" is a nearly impossible question for me to answer before the candle burns, without having done a reading for you and without having any background on how things got like this and without knowing what other spellwork you are doing.  (You might be surprised at how often a client consults with me about a long-standing situation and I find that they have been doing work that is poorly thought out or poorly understood, thus shooting themselves in the foot or taking actions that go in the face of the stated magical petition.)

A one day light setting that burns for a few hours is not going to change a long-standing situation all that much by itself, in many cases, and certainly not quickly even in the cases where effects will be measurable.  Most of my clients who order one day taper or votive settings do so to have them set three times a week for several weeks running, on a honey jar or sour jar, or else to be offered as thanks  to God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, saints, angels, spirits, etc. for favors granted.  One-day light settings (or, more often, vigil lights) are often used as backup work or kick-starts to other types of spellwork being done by the client, or perhaps spiritual baths being done by the client, as the rootworker "backs up" the work or baths on his or her altars.  However, keep in mind that candle burning spells often report on themselves and give you information about what you can expect; any indications like this that come through in the burning would be reported on upon its completion.  So the candle both influences the situation AND reports on the situation.  Here's some description from one of my eBay listings: The burning candle will be "read" and reported on via a process known as ceromancy. 

What the heck is ceromancy?

When rootworkers and spirit workers burn candles for client petitions, we pay attention to how the candle burns.  Does it burn faster than usual?  Does it sputter?  What do the shapes in the wax tell us?  Does the flame blacken the glass?  These signs tell us something about how the work is going to go and what conditions are surrounding the situation.  Ceromancy is the reading of the wax, and by extension, of the process of the candle-burning itself. The word comes from the Greek and simply means "divination by wax." There is more than one way to do it, though the oldest methods involved reading wax dripped into water to interpret the signs and behavior. But reading the behavior and progress of a burning candle is also a type of ceromancy.

ETA: the Ninja Cat has a post talking about signs that is well worth a read.  Scroll down to the "let the sign find them" part.

Q: How long until I see results from my light setting or altar work?

A: Often the candles that are burned during this type of altar work will report on the progress - the altar work may reveal signs of blockage (such as protection work they have on themselves, or other problems) and stuff like that affects the outcome. In general, one rule of thumb is that you should expect to see some signs of positive movement within about a month if the spell is going to work. But that is a rule of thumb that varies depending on the nature of the work, and often the work itself will reveal more specifics (a very quickly burning Reversing candle, for instance, or one that leaves certain signs on the candle glass, might indicate quicker results, or a slow burning candle that goes out or leaves other signs on the glass might indicate slower results).A customer asks how long a candle will take to work.

A:There is no way I can answer a question about how long a candle is going to take to work - it depends on the situation. If you are lighting a votive candle for a million dollar lottery win, it might not ever work. If you are lighting it as part of a larger and continuing working to improve your business, you can generally expect to see some signs of positive movement in your spellwork within a month or so, if the spell is going to work. Some people say "signs in three days, movement in three weeks, results in three months," but please note that there is no "rule" about this, and the timing will depend on your situation and on what constitutes "complete success" for you (ie, if you want improvement, you should see results on that in a few months, but if you want a million dollars in sales, three months might not be realistic if you're still running your business out of your spare bedroom).  In general, I think that you should see some sort of signs of movement within a month, or else there's a good chance the spell is not working.  A sign might be an omen or funny coincidence; if you are doing love work, that might be your neighbor getting a new cat and giving it the same name as your ex.  But a sign in Better Business work can also be an increase in foot traffic, even if you haven't seen the sales at the level you like yet. The increase in foot traffic would be a sign of positive movement.  So would an offer from somewhere for some good word of mouth or low-cost advertising - some sign that things are moving in the desired direction.  (A sign is probably not going to be the hand of God writing a message to you in the fog of your bathroom mirror.  If that happens, please call me.  I would like to hire you.)  If you see nothing in 3-4 weeks, or if the all the signs are bad, it's probably time to adjust fire. If you're burning candles to change a very longstanding situation, though, or work towards something huge like the sale of a home, a month just might not be long enough. There are too many variables in anybody's case for anybody to be able to tell you how long a candle burning will take to work, or even if it will. Spellwork just doesn't work like that, and you'll probably find that many rootworkers will say they do their work but are always careful to phrase things "if it be God's will."  And how realistic your goals are is also a factor.

Regarding how to use a product: 

I don't send instructions for anything that doesn't say it comes with instructions (and that's mostly just bath salts, as lighting a candle is fairly self-explanatory, but taking a spiritual bath isn't). There are as many ways to use these items as there are people using them. For candles, generally people carve their names and petitions on them, unless they set them on photos or name papers, or unless they affix photos to the candle itself. But beyond that - fancy altars, no altars, saints, no saints, powders, no powders, one day burn right through, burn a bit for seven days - the possibilities are nearly endless. My supplies are building blocks, but the architectural plans are yours.  I am always happy to comment briefly on any plan you have for a spell that you want my feedback on; if you bring me an idea and ask for feedback, I can probably answer.  If you write me asking me to give you a spell, you're probably going to be disappointed.  Even when I do give "instructions," that terminology is a bit misleading because it implies a "one correct way to do things."  So I think of these "instructions" more as "suggestions" than "instructions" in the majority of cases. 

Regarding books:

No book is necessary. Rootwork is not a bookbound tradition but an oral tradition (that doesn't mean nobody read or reads books, it just means that this is not your whole "passed down the grimoire full of sigils that must be drawn just so and rhymes that must be said just right" tradition). The book you are most likely to find an old time rootworker using most often is the Bible.
Tags: ceromancy, client education, faq, hoodoo education, how to, is it working?, light settings, questions you've asked, signs, spellbooks, spells, timing, timing in spells
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